Sex Confession #302 | Adult Confessions

- Anything Goes -

To the citizens of the United States of America.

In the light of your failure to elect a worthwhile President of the USA and thus to govern yourselves properly, we hereby give notice of the revocation of your independence, effective today.

Her Sovereign Majesty Queen Elizabeth II will resume monarchical duties over all states, commonwealths and other territories. Except Utah, which she does not fancy.

Your new prime minister (The rt. hon. Tony Blair, MP for the 97.85% of you who have until now been unaware that there is a world outside your borders) will appoint a minister for America without the need for further elections.

Congress and the Senate will be disbanded.
(A questionnaire will be circulated next year to determine whether any of you noticed.)

To aid in the transition to a British Crown Dependency, the following rules are introduced with immediate effect:

1.You should look up "revocation" in the Oxford English Dictionary, then look up "aluminium". Check the pronunciation guide. You will be amazed at just how wrongly you have been pronouncing it. Generally, you should raise your vocabulary to acceptable levels. (Look up "vocabulary"). Using the same twenty seven words interspersed with filler noises such as "like" and "you know" is an unacceptable and inefficient form of communication.(Look up "interspersed")

2.There is no such thing as "US English".
We will let Microsoft know on your behalf.

3.You should learn to distinguish the English and Australian accents.It really isn't that hard.

4.Hollywood will be required occasionally to cast English actors as the good guys.

5.You should re-learn your original national anthem, "God Save The Queen", but only after fully carrying out task 1. We would not want you to get confused and give up half way through.

You should stop playing American "football". There is only one kind of football. What you refer to as American "football" is not a very good game.
The 2.15% of you who are aware that there is a world outside your borders may have noticed that no one else plays "American" football. You will no longer be allowed to play it,and should instead play proper football.
Initially, it would be best if you played with the girls. It is a difficult game.
Those of you brave enough will, in time, be allowed to play rugby (which is similar to American "football", but does not involve stopping for a rest every twenty seconds or wearing full Kevlar body armour like Nancy Boys).
We are hoping to get together at least a US rugby sevens side by 2005.

7.You should declare war on Quebec and France, using nuclear weapons if they give you any merde. The 98.85% of you who were not aware that there is a world outside your borders should count yourselves lucky. The Russians have never been the bad guys. "Merde" is French for "shit".

8.July 4th is no longer a public holiday. November 8th will be a new national holiday, but only in England.
It will be called "Indecisive Day".

9.All American cars are hereby banned. They are rubbish and it is for your own good. When we show you German cars, you will understand what we mean.

10.The 97.85% of you who have until now been unaware that there is a world outside your borders will be required to go back to school to learn how to spell and use correct grammar.

1. Please tell us who killed JFK. It's been driving us crazy.

Thank you for your cooperation.
(Look up "Cooperation")

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# 302 - by Anonymous / May 16, 2005

Comments

by Anonymous on May 16, 2005 at 1:58 PM

*LOL*

Very funny!!!! Just don't be surprised if you get 'merde' for this from others who don't know about the rest of the world.

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by Anonymous on May 16, 2005 at 2:46 PM

I do believe that you neglected to include the word Nuclear in the look it up category of your post.
nu-cle-ar (Correct) as opposed to nuc-u-lar (Wrong)

by Anonymous on May 16, 2005 at 9:31 PM

I bet you wished you were American. Your grandparents didn't have the guts to "come over" I guess. Its ok, if you like you may come, but be nice and grateful when you get here ok.

I personally prefer the standard US English accent or even the common US slangs, its clearer and more refined opposed to all that slag "Youw peowpol carri oon wit"

I do however, agree with you on the president part. Americans put him again stating "family values" but how can you have a family when the majority of straight men are being killed off in a futile war.

by Anonymous on May 16, 2005 at 9:32 PM

To hell with your Queen, we are all Kings and queens!

by Anonymous on May 17, 2005 at 5:29 PM

Geez....I saw that after the 2000 election....probably been around for a while before that too.

by Anonymous on May 17, 2005 at 6:07 PM

can anyone hear say NFL Europe?
its been around for ages you know

by Anonymous on May 17, 2005 at 9:54 PM

"Youw peowpol carri oon wit"

LOL I like that.

by Anonymous on May 18, 2005 at 2:21 AM

Re: To hell with your Queen, we are all Kings and queens!

King (World beater)
Yes you are correct, there are many things in which the average American is a world beater.
Ignorance and stupidity for a start! (My sincere apologies to the 2.15%) and yes, I have encountered more Queens per capita in the USA than in any other country.

by Anonymous on May 29, 2005 at 7:39 PM

Ever heard of James Bond? Look up he's an english actor in your dictionary.

by Anonymous on May 30, 2005 at 11:10 AM

Bond? James Bond is an actor?
I thought he was a fictional character dreamed up by Ian Flemming in the late 40's-50's, who became a fictional character in the cinny in the early 60's..... I think "Dr. No" was the first film - or was it "From Russia"?
Off to imdb.........

by Anonymous on Jun 28, 2005 at 1:52 AM

To be serious here.

The war in Iraq is very important. I have been reading and reading and reading all that I can about the nature of the situation with respect to Iraq.

On September 11, 2001 I knew a little more about the world situation than most people.

I knew that morning that Osama Bin Laden was very likely involved. Most people in the world on that morning probably did not know that. I didn't know at that time of Imad Mugniya.

As for the French, I would have anyone spend 4 hours a week for 8 weeks examining that country. A good place to start would be to search on the name Eva Joly and branch out from there.

Foreigners and many Americans do not understand the topology of American society.

If there was a basic knowledge test given to voters that needed to be passed in order to vote the democrats would lose worse than they are now.

Much of what is ridiculed by foreigners about America are aspects of America that are populated by Democrats.

by Anonymous on Jun 28, 2005 at 11:06 PM

Are you completely insane or just another dumb ass republican?

Nevermind, there isn't any difference.

by Anonymous on Jun 29, 2005 at 9:20 PM

Saddam's regime did things like:

1) Put out cigars on women's vagina.
2) Gouged the eyes of children out in front
of their parents.
3) Dipped people in acid or wood chippers. Head
first if he liked you, feet first if he
didn't.
4) Impaled a nurse to a wall in Kuwait.
5) Crushed the feet of a two year old child
in front of the childs mother.
6) Beheaded mothers in front of their families.
7) Had dogs devour prisoners.
8) Experimented with chemical and biological agents
on prisoners.
9) Amputated people's tounges. Cut off ears.
10) Official rapists that would sodomize a child in
front of their parents. Or the parents in front
of their child.
11) Poisoned and drained the marshes where the marsh
Arabs had lived for thousands of years.
12) Made Kuwaitis eat their excrement.
13) Hoisted people from the ceiling from there arms
while their arms were tied behind their back
causing the arms to come out of their sockets.
14) Locked people in small crates so they were
scrunched for weeks. Often with another dead
person in a box with them.
15) The US forces freed hundreds of Arab children
from prison.

The list goes on and on and on.

The above things didn't seem to bother many people
in the "international community" who were breaking
"international law" by circumventing the sanctions
and profiting from the oil-for-food vouchers.
There were 1,500 people a year dying in the
prisons of Iraq but as long as Saddam could work
the oil vouchers to his advantage it didn't seem
to matter to the "international community". What
went on in Abu Ghraib in 2003 was NOT good at all.
But, it was 1/1,000,000 as bad as what had
previously gone on there. The only difference in
2003 was that the "world community" wasn't getting
it's take of oil vouchers so suddenly it mattered.

The sanctions were done. In "free fall" as Charles
Duelfer put it. Saddam had billions of dollars.
Saddam was paying homicide bombers families
25,000 dollars for killing civilians in Israel.
He was sending the money through his Vice President
Taha Yassin Ramadan to the Arab Liberation Front
for these operations. A 14 year old American girl
was killed in one of those operations. Her name
was Abigail Litle (one 'L'). Saddam's intelligence
operatives killed an American soldier in the
Philippines named Mark Jackson. About a dozen
Iraqi's were kicked out shortly after that when a
bomb planted at a grade school was traced to the
Iraqi's (Zamboanga City).

Just before September 11, 2001 Saddam had a terror
meeting August 19, 2001 in Baghdad. It was someting
he did annually. Over 100 terrorists were invited.
Then the Kurds in the north start encountering
Al-Qaeda coming into northern Iraq. The Kurds could
tell they were Taliban types (Salafis) because they
threw acid in womens faces and tried to enforce
sharia law. Saddam mover his wifes to a bunker in
Tikrit and then September 11, 2001 happens. Then
there is a war in northern Iraq before the war in
Afghanistan because Al-Qaeda are moving into Iraq.
In Afghanistan we find chemical and biological
production sites in construction. On December 3,
2001 an Iraqi tribal Sheik reads a poem in Saddam's
presence giving Saddam credit for having performed
the World Trade Center attacks. The poem mentions
"5 Birds flew" when there was only 4 planes because
the poem was written before September 11 because
there was another plane meant for the Securities
and Exchange building.

Then in May of 2002 Zarqawi and 2 dozen other
Al-Qaeda terrorists move into Baghdad. In October
2002 they kill Lawrence Foley. A USAID worker in
Amman Jordan. Then in December 2002 Ricin is found
in a London an apartment is traced to the Al-Qaeda
camp in Northern Iraq.

In March of 2003 the war starts and Saddam's regime
falls about April 9, 2003. On April 11, 2003 a
man carrying Anthrax on a ship owned by an
Egyptian company dies of exposer on his way to
deliver it to Canada. The number 2 and 3 men of
Al-Qaeda are Egyptian - Al-Zawahiri and Saif
al-Adel.

During the summer of 2003 bombs have been used that
detected positive for VX nerve agent.

The WMD sites we thought we knew of and some we
didn't had been professionaly looted. Precurser
chemicals found and some places had traces of
decontaminate. Hard disks were pulled fromm the
computers and many of Saddam's scientists were by
then in Syria and Lebanon. Satellite imagery shows
trucks entering Syria before the war. Israeli
intelligence belieives that materiel was buried in
Syria by some prior agreement with Syria, like
35 million dollars to Assad. That would not be too
suprising if you were to hear the story of
Kuntsevich of Russia in Syria and his aides being
in Baghdad in the 1990's or Belarus' open trade
and uninspected flights into Baghdad.

This is only barely scratching the surface. We
haven't talked about Sudan-Osama-Saddam-Algeria-
terrorism, Bekka Valley, more on Russia,
oil-for-food money to Al-Qaeda, Saddam's history
and connections, his sons, Palestinian's involvement
in the 1990 attack on Kuwait, Arafat's billions and
the European Union, Saddam and Pakistan and A.Q.
Khan, North Korea, Saddam's/Revolutionary Command
Council's declarations, Osama bin Ladens Iraq
centered speeches, Salman Pak, etc....

It could be a 2,500 page book.

by Anonymous on Jul 1, 2005 at 6:32 PM

I wrote the previous message in a hurry because I had to get to a New Years party.

--Corrections:

1) "Imad Mugniya" should be "Imad Mugniyah"

--Next message corrections:

1) Abigail Litle is spelled with one 't'.
2) Iraqi's should be Iraqis
3) mover is moved.
4) Wifes is wives. I remembered that the article I read said 2 of his wives and I quickly added an 's' and went on.
5) The poem says "5 planes flew" not "5 birds". There is a reference at the beginning of the poem to birds.
6) The fifth plane involved in the plan was meant for the Whitehouse in some theories others say Security and Exchange building.
7) Exposer should be exposure.
8) "tested" instead of "detected", in reference to VX ordinance used in Iraq.

Any Europeans reading might be interested to know that Saddam poisoned some oranges shipped from Israel with mercury in the late 1970's and there were deaths in Europe as a result.

There was a bomb plot in, I believe, December 1999 meant for Strasbourg France. It involved Algerians and Iraqis.
While Osama bin Laden was in the Sudan he recieved financial assistance from Saddam for a terrorist insurgency in Algeria.

From what I've read Iraqi pilots were used by Khartoum, Sudan to bomb the Southern Sudan Africans in the 1990's.
Iraq had missiles in Sudan pointed at a dam on the Nile in Egypt and at Jeddah Saudi Arabia.

There was a little blip on the radar screen after the first World Trade Center bombing in 1993 of the Khartoum governments involvement. After the first Gulf War Saddam had to remove terrorists from his country. Many went to Sudan. Sudan was one of (if not the only) country still supporting Saddam after the first Gulf War. Sudan seems to me to have been a melting pot of Al-Qaeda/Bin Laden and Iran/Bekka Valley and Saddam/Exiled Terrorists.

From Sudan Osama went back to Afghanistan. The 2nd in command for Al Qaeda is Iman al-Zawahiri (don't confuse with Zarqawi). He was over an organizaton called Egyptian Islamic Jihad. When Egyptian Islamic Jihad joined Al Qaeda in the late 1990's Saddam concurrently sent Zawahiri 300,000 dollars.

Osama bin Laden while in Sudan sold Sudanese children into slavery.

Does anyone out there know about a dirty bomb actually tested on the Island of Cyprus in connection with Sudan?
I would like to know more.

by Anonymous on Jul 3, 2005 at 6:46 PM

Wow. You can start your own "Bush's Real "Reasons For War In Iraq Really Were The Real Reasons For War In Iraq" - aka: ""False" Testimony to the UN, To The Congress And People Of The USA To Hide An Even Greater Truth" - i.e.: "We Cover Lies With Even And Ever More Lies" conspiracy website.

Seriously, though, do share this wonderously incredible "info" with Bushcorp.

I'm sure they'll be relieved to learn from you that they were "right" all along.

P.S. - Saddam Hussein was the ugly scab that held the British sutured-together artificial "Iraq" together.
S.H. was the latest and most politically and tactically vulnerable in a long line of sadistic potentates in the region and world wide that the USA has not only tolerated, but supported through the years.

S.H. was a ripe oily plum Bushcorp could and would not resist.

Ya see, sonny, politics is really only about whose ox is being gored by whom.

Right now, we can thank the geniuses at Bushcorp - and the braindead trailerpark whitetrash NASCAR Lush Rumball "republicans" who ensured the disaster to continue - for handing Iraq to Iran.

by Anonymous on Jul 3, 2005 at 7:43 PM

I'll just keep writing even if no one wants to respond.

Some more tortures done by Saddam's regime to add to the previous ones mentioned in the articles above are:

1) In kuwait in August and September it can get up to 115 to 130 degrees. Under the bright sun the asphalt can get real hot. He fried Kuwaitis on the hot asphalt by making them lie flat with their faces on the pavement for a long time. If they did not stay flat they were shot.

2) His regime shot into crowds of protesting women in Kuwait in 1990.

3) When he put down the "intifada" in his own country after his defeat in 1991 he rounded up men, women, and children. He made bonfires out of large piles of old tires. He threw people into these burning tires. They would get stuck in the sticky goo and burn in there.

4) Over 300,000 people have been uncovered in mass graves in Iraq. The way they filled some of these graves was by putting a crowd together near an embankment to be executed. He would then shoot them in the legs to disable them and then bulldoze dirt over them to bury them alive.

In Fallujah recently the United States army removed the terrorists there.

Or, as Michael Moore al-Flintawi would say "Minute Men".
He claims he is from Flint, Michigan.

They found 20 different torture chambers in Fallujah and some objects they believe appeared in the vidoes during the beheadings they performed.

They also found three empty bottles of whiskey which, among other things, is making me rethink the real nature of these "Islamists" or whatever.

I guess Michael Moore al-Flintawi has allowed Hezbollah to use his Fahrenheit 911 movie for their propaganda purposes.

Iran controlls Hezbollah which in turn rules the Bekka Valley in Lebanon. It's an area where a father can, and will, kill his own daughter or a brother can kill his sister for things that they believe to be contrary to Islamic law. They blast their daughters or sisters for things that a father in the west would see as part of the growing and exploring aspects of a young girls life, like holding hands, meeting someone, or dating.

Hezbollah makes up a good portion of the killing going on in Iraq right now. This is also the organization of Imad Mugniyah. He has got a rap sheet as long as Abu Nidal's. Hezbollah has got some materiel in it's possession that was once in Iraq and now 800 Hezbollah are in Iraq.

I would recommend to anyone who has taken a liking to Fahrenheit 911 also watch FahrenHYPE 911. It has got Ron Silver, Dick Morris, and former New York Mayor Ed Koch in it. Watch it carefully twice. But, I would say that neither of these is really where to go to learn the real things. The real stuff takes a lot of mundane and hard work and it is only over time that it begins to round out so that a fuller picture begins to emerge. Opinion pieces can give you a laugh or a high but its really only candy.

During the first Gulf War the Iraqis were able to find top Kuwaiti officials and business men because Kuwait had hired Palestinians to good positions in Kuwait's banking and finance industries. The Palestinians used their positions in these businesses to gather adresses and phone numbers of important Kuwaitis. They passed this information on the Saddam's intelligence agencies. At the time of the invasion of Kuwait in August 1990 many Palestinians in the other Persian Gulf States began to simultaneously undermine governments that employed them. There was a plan between Saddam and the Palestinians that Kuwait would become a new Palestinian home land. In the late summer or early fall of 1991 600,000 Palestinians were kicked out of the Persian Gulf States that had once employed them. Most of them went to Jordan where they make up the majority in Jordan.

Syrian Muslim Brotherhood went to Baghdad after they were removed from Syria in February 1982 (They called themselves the Syrian National Salvation Front). They had to leave after the First Gulf War but were back in Baghdad in late 1999 or 2000. Their being in Baghdad at this time is interesting because the Syrian Muslim Brotherhood in Spain was overseer and recruiter for the Hamburg Cell that performed the 911 attacks. Mohammed Atta denied being a part of the Syrian Muslim Brotherhood but he went to Toronto before 911 to recieve false documents provided by a Syrian Muslim Brotherhood print shop in Toronto. The time of the return to Baghdad of the Syrian Muslim Brotherhood is not long after it is believed that the cell leaders were chosen and the operation to hijack the airliners was put in motion. Neither is this time much past the time of Abu Nidal's return to Baghdad which is against "international law" for him to be there.

Should I keep going?

I'm not saying the United States per se is so great. In some ways it sucks. In some ways my life sucks or life sucks for a lot of people too. Maybe the whole world has always sucked and is still sucking. But, in a way, that is a different matter. The world is not going to suckmore or unsuck by much of anything I'm going to do or not do. So putting aside the suckedness issue I must take pleasure in trying to know things as plainly as I can and wait and see if in 2 or 10 years I really know something. And if in 10 years I really know something I'll celebrate with a box of Fig Newtons and Milk and fall asleep and wake feeling suckie.

by Anonymous on Jul 3, 2005 at 8:53 PM

Personally, I'm not going to defend our 1980's support of Saddam Hussein.

But, it wasn't just the United States that supported Saddam as everyone knows. His support was coming from most every country in Europe. When the United States halted CCC credits to Iraq in 1990 it was over the protest of Europe and the Arab countries. They needed/wanted the United States to prop up Saddam's economy because he owed them a lot of money due to the support they gave him during his war with Iran. These countries and companies that supported Saddam were not necassarily "right-wing" or "left-wing" they were a variety of nations and individuals.

Now from what I understand Saddam first appears connected to the United States in the Eisenhower administration as we thought him to be some one that would suppress Soviet influence in the region. That policy was continued through the Kennedy administration and into the Johnson administration. Saddam or the Baathists got their first chance at governing Iraq for a short while during the Lyndon Johnson administration while Bill Moyers was Johnson's press secretary.

The Ayatollah Khomeini was loved by the European press. People in Jimmy Carter's state department called him the "Muslim Ghandi". It appears that Jimmy Carter may have allowed the Shah to fall because of his relationship to Pakistani BCCI bankers. When he went to Pakistan he was greeted by the BCCI protocol department, not the Pakistani Goverment protocol department. He traveled the world with the corrupt Pakistani BCCI banker Agha Hassan Abedi. Carter was given a jet to fly in by Abedi. Not that it really matters to me but since it seems to matter to a lot to some people it would be interesting to note that the Bin Laden Group is a contributer to the Carter Center. But seriously I understand how those things happen. Ghaith Pharoan is an interesting character to have lived in Georgia but that is a another and a long story.

Anyway, when the Ayatollah took power Saddam thought he could make quick work of the Iranian Army but he couldn't because Iran was armed to the teeth by the United States at that time due to our relationship previously with the Shah. The Shah was suppose to be a major piece in stopping Soviet designs on getting to the Persian Gulf and/or the Arabian Sea. The Britsh pulled out of the Persian Gulf in very early 1970's. The United States at that time wasn't really equipped to do the job the British had been doing there.

So the war was on between Iraq and Iran. Iran wasn't going to stop just because Iraq had been repulsed. Iran would not relent. Iran said something to the effect that the road to Jerusalem leads through Baghdad.

So now what?

Iran believes that much of the property and some of the majority shiite nations on the western side of the Persian Gulf is rightfully theirs.

Our relations with the Ayatollah's Iran were not good of course and why would they be? Saddam was ridiculous, but he stood between Iran and the GCC states. These GCC states fought a proxy war with Iran through Saddam. They assured the United States that they could handle him. A kind of "leave that to us, we can handle him" attitude. Well I guess they couldn't.

Due to Iran having a large Jewish population that needed protection Israel took Iran's side and knew of some "moderates". A deal was arranged for some arms for hostages deal that of course blew up as we know.

Saddam's ability and know how to produce his own armaments accelerated between 1985 and 1990. Everyone was trying to sell him anything and everything and they did. In December of 1989 Saddam launced a rocket into space. In April 1990, after the shooting of Gerald Bull in Europe, and Saddams execution of a British journalist he threatened to burn up Tel Aviv with his chemical arsenal which was no idle threat. He had quite an arsenal and the ability to produce more. He had 22,000 tons of precurser and was able to produce 4,000 tons a year of various agents. He was the Henry Ford of mass production of Chemical Weapons.

He had a workable nuclear weapon that lacked only the fissile material thanks to Israel's attack on the Osirak Reactor the French sold him 12 years earlier. That would have given him the one thing he needed and that was an ultimate deterent.

I'll stop here and see if anyone responds.

by Anonymous on Jul 4, 2005 at 10:43 AM

If there is any British people out there reading this stuff I think you ought to know your country's major roll in arming Iraq. I'm not trying to lay a guilt trip on you personally. I understand we are all born with a table already set with numerous issues not of our own making.

There isn't a country without these issues. So, as you say, "Carry On".

Any Brit ought to be aware of the "Scott Inquiry" by Sir Richard Scott. After years of testimony the final report came out around February 15, 1996. Search on things like "Richard Scott" and "Howe Guidlines" and "Glazebrook" and "UK Ltd". The intriging confluence of British Intelligence, Bank of England, Royal Ordinance, and potential suppliers and manufacturers of materiel is fascinating. Is that the way things ought to get done? Is there really any other way? Maybe? Maybe not?

Of course Jordan didn't want Iran to take the Iraqi Shia south in the Iran-Iraq war and have Iran as Jordan's near northern neighbor. So Britain supported the moderate Jordanian government by running armaments through the Gulf of Aqabah like shit through a goose. Jordan has little natural resources and they are always in need of some kind of foreign business to keep their government afloat.

Also Britain made out really well arming Saudi Arabia in the al-Yamama deal. 18 Billion dollars worth. There is some people in this country that blame the Isaeli lobby in this country for the United States missing out on that contract. The odd thing is that its the same people who say, at least, that they detest the Arms Industry.

It's kind of like the people in the United States that dislike the Carlyle Group started by George Soros. When it could be said that it is more heavily invested in by those to the left of the isle in the United States.

The Bank of England I see is still in trouble over BCCI. That could take a person a life time of dedicated study to get to know 10% of what all that was about. Much of it may never be knowable since much of it took place off the books or was written in Pakistani (Mojahir) Urdu. It is said that it is hard to comprehend because it wasn't really a bank. If one insists on thinking of it as a bank you will continue to misunderstand what it really was.

Enough for now.

by Anonymous on Jul 4, 2005 at 12:24 PM

I hope it was of no great shock to you to learn that most of those in Government and the upper echelons of business were and are self-serving megalomaniacs. Few, if any exceptions come to mind.
What's that saying - "...some enter politics to do good, but instead find themselves doing rather well."

by Anonymous on Jul 5, 2005 at 3:14 AM

"Shock". I'm shocked.

I kind of felt that I was communicating that aspect as well.

Maybe I think too much- in a sense- and don't think people mean things in a friendly way, but I'm staring at what was said previously and I'm not sure what it really means.

It's not that I haven't heard it before. I've probably heard it too much. It just seems empty and void of any real meaning in the context of the thread.

I guess I'll say this. I've tried to talk to people about things in an information sharing conversation. And I've noticed that if after sharing many things all they return with is this stuff about some "rich people" I know that the conversation isn't going to go much further.

Honestly, does something that sounds like it came out of a fortune cookie seem appropriate now in the thread.

I probably shouldn't have mentioned the Saddam tortures due to the fact that I don't know who's reading.

I am new on the Internet so I may not realize where I am at on this site. If you are all under 25 here than I think I've said too much for this site. I've worked much of my life in bars and have enjoyed the company of the young (sort of, its a little more mixed feelings) but I know how you are just starting out and you are a certain way about things which is good, I hope.

When I was in the army I had an attitude a little closer to y'alls attitude. I was worse than Hawkeye Pierce but its not really the way to go now.

Debate is not really what I want to do here actually.

I've shared more than maybe what is right with hostile strangers.

by Anonymous on Jul 5, 2005 at 4:35 AM

You know it gets real boring listening to these neanderthals and their anti-American ranting.
These morons would do better by indulging in a real good study of the foundation and meaning behind the Constitution of the United States and then they just might be qualified to open their ignorant gobs (mouths in the vernacular).
USA will continue to be a force for good,the major world power and example of liberty and freedom in the progressive world.
And I am British by the way(though I woulkd rather be American!!)

by Anonymous on Jul 5, 2005 at 8:29 AM

Ahhhh, blow it out yer boring ass. Go find a blog that suits your mindset and your phony baloney mindset and handwringing over the 18th century hypocrisy of this "Constitution" bullshit that the 21st century hypocrits wipe their ass with one minute and hold sacrosanct the next. Jefferson was just like a good many of his 21st century counterparts, born into priviledge that afforded them a lot of time for leisurely gassing but underneath it all only a coward who was good at only one thing - writing high flown and overblown fiction.

by Anonymous on Jul 5, 2005 at 9:12 AM

Jefferson had nothing to do with the Constitution, by the way. One of the most important rights in the Constitution is freedom of expression. You can dislike someone's opinion, but it is their right to hold it. Remember that.

by Anonymous on Jul 5, 2005 at 9:49 AM

I am the 1851 message person again.

What is "blow it out you ass"?

And who might I ask would you, yourself, say then is the "trailer park white trash" that was mentioned ealier in the thread? When you lay your eyes upon the screen of your monitor and behold another persons words why would the chemicals in your brain arrange themselves in such a way as to cause your fingers to type "blow it out your ass"? It doesn't fit the tone from the way I've read the previous message.

You can't say Jefferson had NOTHING to do with the constitution. All of those "founding fathers" influenced each other in meetings and writings over that period. NOTHING would not be the word to use. You could down play his role if you feel you should. But then you should explain yourself.

It gets a little confusing out there about this idea that people can hold other opinions. Who should say that to who? If person 'A' says something to person 'B' and 'B' says something then to person 'A' and 'A' in turn says something in response. Why would person 'B' bring up his right to hold his opinion at that point? Isn't that already self evident in the context of their little conversation? Wouldn't he rather respond informatively and keep the conversation going?

Should 'A' have tried to say it first so that he or she could stuff the conversation and get that thrill first, if thats the point?

by Anonymous on Jul 5, 2005 at 9:54 AM

Jefferson's ideas may have had influence over the framers of the Constitution, but he had no direct influence - he was not even in the country at the time of the Convention. I was just trying to be historically accurate.

The rest of my message was directed at those who seem to be saying, "America - love it or leave it," which is a crock of shit, in my opinion (of course, anyone can hold this opinion, it is their right :)

by Anonymous on Jul 5, 2005 at 8:51 PM

That's fine.

I am about to say something that isn't directed at anyone. It is just something to think about. It has to do with the word "opinion".

If a person says right in the midst of a conversation -

"I have a right to my opinion"

That is a raising of the value of the word "opinion".

If a person says right in the midst of a conversation -

"That is just your opinion"

That is a lowering of the value of the word opinion.

The fact that two people have begun to talk has already implicit in it the sharing of opinion. Neither really makes a lot of sense to say to the other. If two people are eating together they don't say eat, eat, eat, to each other as they are eating.

Does that make sense?

The first example is a soft "stuff it" of a conversation. It is maybe a little OK to use sparingly in the right situation.

The second is a hard "stuff it".

I don't pratice it but I've known people who do. I could try it sometime just to feel what it is like to say it first.

You really are not very friendly if you use both to what you percieve to be your conversational advantage. That would be real rude and a hollow "win" if thats the aim.

by Anonymous on Jul 6, 2005 at 2:43 AM

You are a fine example of the kind of person I refer to.
Go and get an education.

by Anonymous on Jul 6, 2005 at 10:56 AM

That is just your opinion.

HA, I got to use it like everybody else.

The hard and soft "stuff it" is just my little informal theory between people sharing opinions. That's all.

I wouldn't put it in a book or a paper. It is really meant for fun. Between two people having a friendly or semi-friendly conversation. Maybe you don't have those.

If you are set upon antagonism there is no language to share execpt "blow it out your ass" and "no, you blow it out your ass" type stuff that seems to be the level of conversation on this site.

Conversation does require that you approach someone elses speech with grace. You fill in the meanings when the person speaking doesn't say it exactly right because you know what they meant to say. Or add nicely to the conversation if what the other person said had something lacking.

This website's writers and a lot of websites look as though the writing needs to be cleaned up. But rather than dismiss it you can fill it in for yourself as to what was meant. If you do that you gain. I'll say it again, you gain. You get to learn something.

I worked at a punk bar for six years. It really only turned punk after 9:00pm. During the day one old guy (born in 1939) would come in and would try to start aurguments. Sometimes it was fun, sometimes not. He never displayed to me his great education but he always went for that against me. Again, he never displayed his own great education (if he had one). I could have went there first but I didn't. Just so it doesn't need to come up again. My education is not that great, but who here is displaying some great education. If your are left of center I am aware that you very often try to present your "ideology" as blue-collar friendly or regular-guy friendly but it is full of people with sour urine for words and attitude. It reminds me of the "documentary" Michael Moore did on his home town of Flint, Michigan. He professes this magnanimity for the common person but he shows the people of Flint in such a negative way I think that if I ran a corporation there I would want to get away from those people based on his portrayal of them.

My education is a two year education I recieved on my GI Bill money after I got out of the Army (3 years in). I got a 3.9 GPA out of a possible 4.0. But what do we gain talking about that? What a waste of time. Does it educate us to talk about my education or wouldn't it be more profitable to stick to a subject outside ourselves that would be to our mutual benefit.

Now that I think about, that is why the old guy always wanted to make me the subject because the real subject was too much for him. Even though he would start it.

That's my opinion.
The stuff you wrote was JUST your opinion.

HA. Just kidding really. I am not writing angrily. I know you guys on this site don't assume that about each other.

by Anonymous on Jul 7, 2005 at 4:08 AM

You sure wrote a lot of words to say nothing.

by Anonymous on Jul 8, 2005 at 2:31 AM

This will be the last I write here. I can see where this is not going.

I don't think you realize that I am someone who could tell you quite a bit and I really mean that. Interesting stuff!

I know you don't even know what I am talking about now.

Your contempt comes across the cable and I'm sure that that is a messure of success for you.

I think I now know who it is that I am talking too. Or I should say the type of people.

I don't dislike you necessarily. I've noticed in the past that this is about as far as it ever goes.

If you are under 25 I'm sorry. You probably aren't some one I should be talking to anyway. You're still a kid and that is good. If you are over 35 you should be pretty capable of having a profitable conversation about some very very interesting things that would come under the heading that started this thread.

I'm pretty sure I know the answer to my question and I apologize for talking to you, really.

To the person who started the thread (if you still check in) sorry about the clog.

Goodbye my friend.

by Anonymous on Jul 9, 2005 at 9:33 AM

Its cool..i know where you are coming from!! Its good to get ideas stirring through debate.It was interesting what you had to say re your experiences.

by Anonymous on Jul 9, 2005 at 1:14 PM

I guess I will respond to this but I correspond with others and I'm kind of busy otherwise and I don't know how long I'm going to keep this up here.

Sorry about the mispellings in the last response. If you look at the time of the message it is an hour later than where I am at. I worked a 14 1/2 hour shift that day and I get home around 2:30 am (3:30am on this website's time). I like my job and it keeps me real busy so I don't mind the hours but I am brain dead and falling a sleep at the keyboard at that time. I stare at a word and know it isn't right but I can't tell what it is for some reason. When I wake up the next day it is real obvious.

Thanks for the interesting websites. Sure beats "stuff it up your ass".

Oil is a real problem I will admit. It really isn't the reason we went into Iraq. I have an article by a Kyrgyz economic analyst named Chingiz Shamshiyev that appeared in the BBC on April 28, 2003. He has looked at the numbers and can't see a real profit benefit. I don't really need the article myself because I understand the role Saddam's Iraq has played and has the potential to play and that was plenty enough for me. I can go more into that maybe later.

Sudan is thought to possibly have as much oil as Saudi Arabia underneath it. That could sound good, but given the way these things go that is in a way scary. The Khartoum, Sudan government is holding out the promise of future oil if the world will look the other way while it does what it does against Muslim and non-Muslim negroes in Sudan. That is the oil angle. If you are "pro-oil", you will look the other way when the Janjaweed carry out the policies of Khartoum. Being pro Saddam isn't being "anti-oil" or "pro-Muslim". That logic could just as easily be turned around by looking closer. The first Gulf War was not just about keeping the Kuwaiti oil in the hands of Kuwaitis but keeping it out of the hands of Saddam. The Khartoum government is using Soviet made jets for their sorties and the French and Chinese have thrown in on the Khartoum government's side. I am not real current on this so maybe someone out there reading knows more.

Oil sucks though as a subject. A lot of people wish it could go away. Who wants to base there life on getting that diry stuff and burning it?

This is a little bit of a segue but needs to be noted. The oil lobby has been traditionally anti-Israel. I know that is a big subject to throw in here now. During the first 1/3 of the 20th Century many parties that were left-of-center were claiming responsibility for the industrial progress. It was thought to have been a good thing at that time.

In the 1960's and 1970's there were predictions that by now we would be living with few natural resources and that hasn't happenned.

I still haven't looked into the site that you gave me but I think that the energy is there for at least sometime. It is more a matter of political stability in the regions where the resources are at. Which isn't very comforting either.

Personally I wish that the private automobile was not allowed to happen starting in 1901 but I don't know how that could have been possible to stop. No private autos would mean cleaner air, less traffic stress, corner groceries and shops, and city blocks would be more ascetic without all those cars parked along the street blocking your view of a building or store front. The oil beneath the United States would have probably been enough to take care of the demand of powering up refrigeraters and other essentials and a little left over for fun. Employment rates and the economy are so intertwined with energy consumption that it would be difficult to do anything much in this area. The world of people is large and it has got a lot of momentum and I don't know if there is much point in bothering to think you could really do a whole lot about certain basic structual things. If the world changes over the next 100 years due to energy supplies either dwindling or shifting sources then that could be a good thing but I would be careful of predicting terrible things. It could be almost anything.

This may be stupid to people who know that this is not a source of energy but I heard that the polar ice caps have HUGE amounts of natural gas (its like HUGE!). I was made to worry over this subject when I was in highschool and I did all my worrying. If an environmentalist wants to depress me and then run off to his log cabin in the woods and laugh and party and fly his jet around the world, it aint going to work anymore. Besides I think if you let that subject take care of itself you'll be more a effective person otherwise. There are a lot of very capable people looking at supply and demand into the future. There is something called the "Bishop Process" that they have started in Texas and in some other states in the U.S. were they are using water to hollow out a cave in underground salt deposit layers and storing Natural Gas in them. The caves are two miles wide!! There was a related expolsion in Texas 3 months ago but it didn't kill anyone because it was out in the middle of nowhere.

As for the light therapy I will look into it. I am not bi-polar but I've known people who say they are. I don't have depression like I periodically did in my teens, twenties, and early thirties. I think it was related to insomnia in those days and I don't have insomnia anymore. I don't have the happy highs I had then but I also don't have the lows. It could be because I am keeping busy.

Bobby Fischer, the American who won Chess Grand Master in the early 1970's was put under arrest in Japan. Iceland may take him into asylum. Iceland is where he won his title. His girlfriend or wife says that his whole life has been chess and he is a little goofy for it. The United States for some reason still wants to arrest him for playing a tournament in Yugoslavia for millions of dollars in 1991(?). I guess he is still a very good player even though he is "losing it" it seems. I don't know what to think of that. His mother was Jewish but Bobby is going off on these anti-Jewish tirades that are full of swear words.

I don't know why I brought that up. I'm not good at Chess. I just remember the name from when I was a kid. My 16 year old nephew beat me over Christmas vacation. It is a recent story. December 2004.

by Anonymous on Jul 23, 2005 at 3:58 AM

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Kudos

p. s. Americans can look up my title. (haha)

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