I've been reading most of the "I Hate My Neighbor" posts and they are very depressing. We are leaving our neighborhood where we have been living for 10 years. It was a new development at the time--a subdivision. Most of the people who moved in were the same age, about mid thirties. Most of the people had no children. We had block parties, shared coffee, had barbeques, and so on. Then they had children, aproximately 4 to 5 per household. We have none. Within the 5 houses in front of us and to our sides, there are about 30 kids. This isn't the problem though. The parents all of a sudden can't stand us. We are quiet, keep to ourselves now because we realize we don't fit in, have a pool, dine on the deck with candle light and some quiet, soft jazz or classical. We don't know what happened in this neighborhood. It is filled with toys and trash in their backyards, campers and trailers adorn the driveways and frontyards.

Now, we are moving into a upper scale unneighborhood, if you will. During our home inspection, we were looking at our property lines, and two German shepards started charging us--they were loose, and the owner called them. When we looked over there, we saw a pen, and were thinking, "Great, now were going to have barking dog problems, dogs in our yard while were trying to garden, or play ball with our young nephews and our little dog.

We just don't know what to do. It seems like everywhere one goes, there are assholes around. Even if we were to buy 20 acres of land and build, we would still have assholes who would hunt and tresspass on our property. People SUCK.

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Anonymous

by Anonymous on Jul 6, 2004 at 12:50 AM

why don't you buy a mountion, a real tall pointy top mountain, build your house on the very top of it, put windows all the way around it so you could see in all directions, then if you saw any assholes coming up you could roll rocks down at them. assholes are easy to spot, they look just like the one in the bathroom mirrow.

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by Anonymous on Jul 6, 2004 at 5:15 AM

Ha. Ha. I know very well that I am an asshole to because I am a person. Ha. Ha. Ha. However, keep in mind that asshole behavior varies in degree. Some people just don't care about other people's quality of life--it's me, me, me! Well, when one spends 300k on a home, one does not expect to find loud, disrespectful, dirty, snoby, people. I wish we could find a place to live were people minded their own business, took care of their lawns at reasonable hours, not when one is dining on the deck with candles! How rude and inconsiderate. We were taking an evening swim and our neighbor with 5 kids just had to keep their back light on. Why? To annoy us? Losers.

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by Anonymous on Jul 6, 2004 at 6:20 AM

It dosn't make any difference weather you live in a 300 tho. house or a 300.00 shack you are gonna incounter disrespectful, dirty, and snoby people. The snoby disrespectful people are most often encountered in the higher society. About taking a swim in your pool and the neighbor leaves his light on, or the other mowes his lawn at a time when it's not to your liking makes you just a snoby as the people you are talking about. You're the kind that move into a neighbor hood and then want to change things to suit you. I was born and raised in the country, been here for 58 years, and have had a few of the upper class city transplants move out here, build a big fancy house, have a manicured lawn, a giant pool, and then complain about the dust from the gravel road, or the farmer running his tractor before 10:am or after 8:pm, and the cattle bawling for thier calves at weaning time. I don't feel sorry for you none, go buy an island someplace where the only thing you have to complain about is the noise the water makes lapping the shore.

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Anonymous

by Anonymous on Jul 6, 2004 at 9:23 AM

Okay. Okay. I get your point. The feedback is certainly and eye-opener: I am just as snoby as others. I am an asshole. So tell me, I really need to know how to get along with asshole neighbors. I really would like an intelligent response. I found the former posts humorous, true, and enlightening. I would, however, like some practical advice on how to deal with people who are different, louder, and more obnoxious than me. Thank you.

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Anonymous

by Anonymous on Jul 6, 2004 at 11:48 AM

Kids are one sort of problem and animals and their human attendants are another - -
When you move into your new home, you should make a point to find out what kind of a dog owner your neighbor is ...
-Is he the typical irresponsible jerk whose pets are some sort of ego extension( - "The dogs barking are actually ME barking - oh, I am such an ALPHA beast" -)?
-Is he a lesser member of the pack( - I CAN"T CONTROL them....! -)?
-Is he that R-A-R-E pet owner who will take responsibilty for his decision to keep/maintain his managere, keeps them in their own yard or on a leash, keeps them fed, watered and clean?
BUT can he control their noisy outbursts? Can he keep their odours upwind? - - well, it probably doesn't matter because you won't be this lucky anyway.
- Pet owner #1: You are going to have a fight on your hands that will be nasty until you can get enough evidence to take him to court, and once probably won't be enough....Remember, you are dealing with an ALPHA BEAST(!)
- Pet owner #2: You can probably reason with this guy to your hearts content - he will promise to take better care of the animals - but you are going to have to take him to court as well, remember: he can't control them - he is a subservient member of the pack.
Animals for neighbors are ALWAYS a problem. AS for which is worse,children or animals, toss a coin.

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Anonymous

by Anonymous on Jul 6, 2004 at 5:28 PM

Then there are the folks with kids <I>and</I> animals.
They are usually <B>amazed</B> to find that not everyone finds their noisy, destructive, unattended and intrusive children AND their unmanageable, destructive, unattended and incontinent animals all that charming....
Count on this: MOST people are generally oblivious to any outlook other than their own.

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Anonymous

by Anonymous on Jul 6, 2004 at 5:57 PM

...pretty scary. You are right about people not raising their children to behave properly. And their dogs too. In order for dogs to fit in to a family, they must be trained and socialized to not jump on people, to stop and start barking on command, to come when called, and to stay when instructed. The owner should be able to take away its bone or any food for that matter without fear of the dog bitting. There could be something in the food that could harm the dog. It is the responsibility of people to raise their animals and children with proper etiquette.

Children these days have parents that are working all day, and send their kids to school so the teacher can raise their children: it's also free daycare. Teachers are not responsible for raising other people's children. The parents need to make sure that their child/children are grade level in all subjects, as well as being considerate, thoughtful adults. But, what these people don't realize is that not only are they doing a disservice to their children, but to themselves and their fellow man.

It is very sad that the people have resorted to hating. I myself am guilty of this, but I wasn't always until I got burned. I am slowly learning about how people are--out for themselves. It is sad. I would really like to learn how to deal with this. Do I just ignore our new neighbors? Do I wave. What to do if they approach and start asking personal questions? I don't want to be rude and I don't want them in our personal life. If we are gardening or working in the yard, we don't want them coming over and disrupting our schedule. What to do?

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Anonymous

by Anonymous on Jul 6, 2004 at 6:18 PM

"What to do?"
Without a doubt - Some of your neighbors will keep to themselves. Some will want to run your life.
You choose the line - just be consistent.

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Anonymous

by Anonymous on Jul 6, 2004 at 7:54 PM

Well, when I am old enough to move out, i will make certain that my neighbor knows who I am!

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Anonymous

by Anonymous on Jul 7, 2004 at 9:20 AM

Actually,the 20 acres isn't a bad idea. Fence it all off first,build in the middle of it. Put up no-tresspassing signs all around the perimeters and you should get some peace and quiet. I live in the country and have had pretty good luck here.

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by Anonymous on Jul 7, 2004 at 10:05 AM

In response to post 909, you say to be consistent. Would an example of this be if a friendly neighbor walks us and starts asking questions such as, "What type of work does your husband do? What type of work do you do? Do you have any children? Where did you live before? How long have you been married for? Do you have a college education? What college did you attend? What high school? I'm just trying to get a response on the tip of my tongue to say to all neighbors, respectable or otherwise. Do I just not respond and smile, and say, "Well, I've got to be going now--I have appointments." What to say?

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Anonymous

by Anonymous on Jul 7, 2004 at 10:19 AM

The peace and quiet you talk about sounds wonderful. We are already thinking about this. We think we might start looking for property a few days after we close. Then start the building process. I don't think tracter dust and cowes bawling will disturb us. The cows are part of nature. And on 20 acres, I don't see how tracter dust will annoy us; especially, if we are looking for property in a wooded area, not farm land. Building on 20 acres sounds reasonable for us. Thank you.

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Anonymous

by Anonymous on Jul 8, 2004 at 1:22 PM

Ever the wet blanket, I would direct your attention to message 814 under "The Inverse-Proportion Rule" below.
Wasn't it the great civic leader Rodney King - who asked the rhetorical question:"Can't we all just get along?"

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Anonymous

by Anonymous on Aug 6, 2004 at 6:21 AM

theres only one thing to do: live in the wilds. im serious- im getting a ranch and never seeing another sould AGAIN. EVER.

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